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Anonymous
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2002/03/14 15:28
Re: CP/M new [re: flydream]Reply to this post

If a C compiler 'll be available, maybe a Linux port (or other UNIX clone) 'll be more interesting than a CP/M for more professional work with this machine... (I think so, because all Amiga users and Sinclair QL users turned to Linux running on their lovely machines!)



Shaos
(stranger )
2002/03/15 09:32
Re: CP/M new [re: Anonymous]Reply to this post

CP/M is thouthends programs like hitech-c, turbo-pascal, dbase2, archivers and many many others!!! If you will support CP/M interface that you get more people, who will want to buy it! I have CD with 650M of CP/M programs!!! And each of them have size less than 64K (packages have size a few more). Think about :)

Alexander Shabarshin (shaos@mail.ru)

DirtyFly
(stranger )
2002/03/16 00:19
Re: CP/M new [re: Shaos]Reply to this post

In my Opinion, CP/M on the sprinter can be a dangerous step, in one hand we would get more software on the other hand we would be restricted to CPM specs, i think that a port or a make of a 'decent' (note the quotes) language is a very important step, ASM is good but too dificult for starters, the easyer the languge the more developers would get on the sprinter wagon.

Jorge



flydream
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2002/03/16 02:14
Re: CP/M new [re: DirtyFly]Reply to this post

In my opinion I think that there are more users than programmers....



Alex_GoryachevAdministrator
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2002/03/16 15:13
Re: CP/M new [re: DirtyFly]Reply to this post

We hope, С (but which?) from CP/M will be next language for Sprinter. I think, you know about the sources for some variants of BASIC compilers.

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Anonymous
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2002/04/04 13:17
Re: CP/M new [re: Shaos]Reply to this post

> CP/M is thouthends programs like hitech-c, turbo-pascal, dbase2, archivers and many many others!!!

Hm, and what about Linux or other UNIX clone?
Turbo pascal and DBase 2 are 20 years old!
I think, Sprinter is enough powerfull to run more complex and stabile operating system with new and modern progs than CP/M, and don't forget, UNIX is more compatible and allows running of X-Window user interface, but standard CP/M runs in text mode only and if it uses a graphic interface, it has less compatibility with other CP/M clones!!!



Shaos
(newbie)
2002/04/04 14:12
Re: CP/M new [re: Anonymous]Reply to this post

> Hm, and what about Linux or other UNIX clone?

Sorry, but Linux is 32-bits system! But Sprinter is 8-bits system.
We can talk only for *nix-like 8-bits OS as UZIX, but
it compiled and installed from CP/M-80 too ...


Alexander Shabarshin (shaos@mail.ru)

polardark
(stranger )
2002/04/04 15:09
Linux? new [re: Shaos]Reply to this post

While Linux on the Sprinter would probably be impossible on the current hardware, there's no reason why GCC or similar developer utilities could not be ported from Linux to function under the Sprinter hardware. It would demand a lot of work. Perhaps Minix would be a more suitable choice of a Unix clone?

Even though there is a large wealth of software for Unix systems, i can't help wondering if most Linux/Unix programs are too inefficient to work well on an 8 bit CPU. Take integers for instance: Under GCC integers are as standard 32 bits. To recompile a GCC program for Z80, would mean you had to emulate 32 bit integers in software, because the largest number representable on Z80 is 16 bits, resulting in a performance slowdown.

Besides, Linux is bloatware ;)



flydream
(stranger )
2002/04/06 03:06
Re: CP/M new [re: Anonymous]Reply to this post

Unix and Linux aren't for 8 bit cpu!!
There is UZI that is a "unix clone" for CP/M... so....



Anonymous
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2002/04/12 17:15
Re: CP/M new [re: Alex_Goryachev]Reply to this post

Maybe it would be a good idea to have a look at z88dk: it is a free z80 C compiler, which supports a wide range of platforms (including zx spectrum). It looks like adding Sprinter support should not be difficult for someone with deep Sprinter knowledge :).

Its home page is http://z88dk.sourceforge.net

Regards,

Javier Peсa




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